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Comment by Bob Conge / PLASEEBO on September 8, 2011 at 3:54pm

Along those lines, I am reading an interesting book with breakfasts these days that you may enjoy. A History of God: The 4,000-Year Quest of Judaism, Christianity and... by Karen Armstrong  The author is a former nun.

 

You may find it somewhat difficult to find info on the Debik in English. The Debik is also from early Jewish folklore. It is an entity that can enter ones body, taking over the soul and cause the possessed one to behave badly. The cure requires an exorcism to be performed by piercing a small hole in the toe of one foot through which the Debik is forced to leave. I have not found a description of just what is involved in the process to get it to exit the toe.

Comment by Paperdaniel on September 8, 2011 at 2:58pm

i will have to read up on the Debik. i love creation stories. god creates man..man destroys god..man takes on the role of god and creates new life..new life learns of mans wickedness and destruction of its true creator, ascends and becomes a new god...new god avenges the murder of the prior one true god by destroying man. new god creates "new and improved" man without the original flaw that led him to destroy his creator...man 2.0 and god 2.0. where did i get this myth? from the original christians. a two thousand year old gnostic would run circles around a modern christian in more ways than one; it would take a handpicked catholic bishop or cardinal in his late 60's with a lifetime of education in koine greek and illuminated latin manuscripts to even try. a priest would have to consume(in one lifetime alone) a tower of plotinus, plato, iamblichus, porphyr..etc..to even partially have a meaningful exchange with a toothless bearded sunburnt man who lived with his balls in the dirt daily and hearded sheep for a living. something is wrong with that picture. its like when the modern astronomers go ask the Dogon tribe for help on charting the stars and such. makes you wonder. and whats more important than wondering? nothing at all.   

Comment by Bob Conge / PLASEEBO on September 8, 2011 at 4:07am

The Golem rules ! Also fear the Debik .

Comment by Paperdaniel on September 8, 2011 at 1:57am

Its all yours bob. Fits perfect as those do not look like normal machines. My friends and I were discusing the arcane jewish alchemical story about the Golem on Sunday. Perfect fodder for a bbq pool party. My friends rule. Anyway, I figure that is the original ghost in the machine type mechanism. All clay but animated by judaic dark magicks and unstoppable. Its got to be one of the original manmonsters.

Comment by Bob Conge / PLASEEBO on September 8, 2011 at 1:10am

Hey PD, can I borrow your so aptly phrased comment "mechanical sorcery parasite" to use on a future header card ?  It just says it all !

Comment by Paperdaniel on September 7, 2011 at 7:08pm

these are so cool. they have a nice mechanical sorcery parasite feel to them. i like that stuff. scares the pants off me anytime dark magicks are mixed with mechanics...all that ghost in the machine jive gets my wheels spinning. maybe when nanotechnology, biochem, and organic computing peaks in the coming years it wont look so fantastical anymore. we surely are headed for days of it being hard to discern where the monster/man begins and the machine ends. see...you can tell a really good toy from the rest. it will not only be pleasant to look at, it will be the thought provoking one.